'Cardboard Thieves' Boxed Up By Cops
Authorities accuse men of making more than (Styrofoam) peanuts off of Walmart's recycling
NORTH JERSEY -- A group of cardboard thieves netted more than $100,000 in the past three months stealing bales of cardboard from Walmart and Sam's Club stores across New Jersey and selling the crushed boxes to recyclers, authorities said Tuesday.
Neil Devito, 34, of Old Bridge, and John Nichols, 38, of Staten Island, were arrested Tuesday and charged with theft, conspiracy and fencing, the Attorney General's Office announced in a release. Charges were pending against a third man, Vincenzo Grasso, 46, of Staten Island.
Police said spotters would go to Walmart and Sam's Club stores on the hunt for cardboard awaiting picking by contracted recycling companies, but would instead swoop in and snatch the waste.
Authorities said the ring lifted 900 tons of carboard from the stores, which they sold for $125 per ton.
"This group invested a considerable amount of time to create an enterprise with the sole purpose to steal cardboard," said Rick Fuentes, superintendent of the New Jersey state police. "There are serious money and organizational skills involved here that could have been used for lawful purposes."
Troopers seized two tractor-trailers, and three flatbeds at the South Amboy lot where Nichols was arrested, authorities said. The trucks are registered to a firm owned by Devito, according to the release.
Authorities are also trying to seize three 2012 Cadillac Escalades that they say were used in the operation.
"Today’s arrests serve as a high watermark in tackling the growing challenge of recycling theft in this region," said New York Business Integrity Commission Chair Shari Hyman.
Gary Rabinowitz
6:11 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
>said Rick Fuentes, superintendent of the New Jersey state police. "There are serious money and organizational skills involved here that could have been used for lawful purposes."
Well, considering how hard it is for so many to find a job, I say kudos!.....So, "recycling theft" is a growing challenge? What a bogus "crime." Considering how much destruction Walmart and other "big box" retailers have done to this nation's economy, the NJSP pursuing this case is a joke. To think -- our NJSP cannot even enforce immigration laws (the ACLU and other treasonous groups would howl) but the NJSP can pursue a case where Walmart is the "victim" speaks volumes about how screwed up our law enforcement priorities have gotten these days. Sheesh....GXR
Ricky
3:15 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
So due to your need for personal revenge on this chain store, you condone breaking the law. Hopefully you raised your children better than that (or plan to).
Gary Rabinowitz
1:54 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
@ Ricky, others -- If you rank all the companies' by imports and contribution to the US Trade deficit, Walmart is the single biggest contributor to this indicator of misery. This company's impact on the American economy speaks for itself. And I have no "need for personal revenge" on this or any company, and I agree: all citizens (and companies) should obey the law. But until Walmart obeys our laws -- labor, immigration, foreign bribery, tax, etc. -- my relative level of sympathy goes to these two gents.
Which brings me to a more serious point: what larger law enforcement agencies choose to focus their scarce resources on. Can you think of more serious crimes in the State of NJ to prosecute and criminals to apprehend than these 2 fellows? Law enforcement is not just enforcing any and every law -- there's priorities and 'triage' to a certain extent. If you are absolutist about enforcing this case of commercial jaywalking, then let's respectfully agree to disagree.
On a lighter note -- there was a somewhat famous article about the Port of Long Beach (CA) when the economy cratered back in 2008. Thousands of imported cars and other valuable products that America imported (from China and other countries) just sat in Long Beach port. Guess what America's largest export to Asia similarly sat on Long Beach docks? Recycled cardboard & paper -
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/business/economy/19ports.html?pagewanted=all
On that depressing note, cheers GXR
jim koehler
4:44 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
a crime is a crime.
Theodore
7:20 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Gary,
So stealing something with a value of $100,000 is okay with you? What if it wasn't wal-mart they stole from? The fact is that there was value to what they took and they did not have any right to take it so they should be arrested.
stephen moscatello
4:42 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
You might think its a victimless crime , Im in the business and when you bid on trash and recycling and all you get is the trash you get hurt . And forget about the stores they derive a small portion of the ''profits'' but for me it offsets high fuel labor and insurence costs . .
badbul
7:48 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
It's all about "Bid Business"...
You can rob whomever you want, just don't screw with big business.
Ron Liberte
10:30 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Cops acting like criminals! What gives them the right to steal the three caddies from these men?
R.A.P.
8:29 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Because they probably bought them with the money that they made from stealing cardboard. Duh. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
Ron Liberte
11:22 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Troopers seized two tractor-trailers, and three flatbeds which are easily worth more than the 100k they "made". The three 2012 Cadillac Escalades are worth more than $100k too. Could it be the real reason they "busted" these guys was $300,000+ in things they could take?
Selene
10:44 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Oh boo hoo some one stole Walmart's cardboard.....are you F'ing serious? And our judicial system is pleased with their arrests? Pathetic...why not throw a hungry child in jail for stealing a loaf of bread....oh wait, they still do that.....
Ron Olson
11:19 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I work for a company that recycles paper and paperboard, it's a tough and cruel business! At first you might laugh but look around your house to see what all paper is used for. Our biggest problem like any other business are the Chinese. There is one company there called Nine Dragons that buys, imports and recycles the paper from the US then sells it back to us. They are right alongside of the river where they unload the stuff by the shipload. Our company buys from large warehouses such as Target. Paper prices are down right now because the Chinese cut down on their buying spree so the place I'm employed is stock-piling while they can.
William Mays
11:36 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Really? Jail for stealing cardboard?
Ricky
3:16 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Yes jail for stealing cardboard which was not the property of those criminals.
Doctor Ron
4:49 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Don't steal the government hates competition.
cv
6:22 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
who buys the cardboard from them?
dsgdshfdh
6:44 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Thinking of taking over the racket, are we?
R.A.P.
8:31 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
We sell our cardboard for $150 a ton. Good money in cardboard recycling.
Bob
6:45 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
This is so dumb .... It's in the recycle anyway they are just re- recycling , how come I don't get paid when I put my cardboard out every other week , I guess it makes it ok to do this "crime" curbside then since residents don't get money back for recyling and it wouldn't be "stealing" either
J.D. Luke
7:03 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
How long does it take you to accumulate a ton of cardboard? Properly bundled up that ton is apparently worth $125. I suppose I could sell my recycling rather than leaving it at the curb, but honestly the amount of money wouldn't be worth it to me, and probably not to most residents.
Theodore
7:18 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The company that picks up your cardboard is making the profit... thus reducing your taxes or the cost of the recycling/garbage pick up.
ksf8291
8:48 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
if they came and sorted my recyclables on curbside night I'd gladly let them keep the cardboard!
cv
7:11 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Good point HobokenOwl. When I lived in NYC people took all my cans and bottles out of my recycling bins for the 5 cent deposit. How was that not stealing? Why would the police even consider this criminal activity , Walmart didnt want it. Most people consider recycling a pain in the a$$.
Theodore
7:23 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
No, Wal-Mart did want it. It was worth $100,000 to them. If they didn't want it then they would have given it away instead of contacting police.
Where I live you are not allowed to remove items from recycing bins on the curb since the town makes money off of the recycling... not much but it covers the cost of trucks and fuel and helps to keep taxes down.
Hank
7:25 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
A trailer load of cardboard is 24 tons x 125 is $3000 not bad for a days work.
There is a massive paper mill in Staten Island that converts bales of cardboard back to rolls of brown paper.
NJP
7:34 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Everyone is right, if they are comfortable with a crime that amounts to a $112,500.00 theft in which the only victims are the recycling companies that were expecting to make that money on resale of the crushed cardboard instead of these guys. I’m sure Walmart was making money too by contracting with the recyclers. The irony is that the State is the one who really wins on this deal because the 2 tractor trailers, 3 flatbeds and 3 Escalades far exceed the profits made by the accused.
Bob
7:37 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Maybe one of these mass paper mills is contracted and pays them for cardboard pick up then yes I see the problem.... But still in that case you can go around curbside which is legal and pick up everyone's stuff and it will defanently will add up "same concept as taking bottles and cans from garbage" .... Isn't the curb fair game?
Diane Schwarz
7:43 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
This article & the comments are better than reading the comics! Who'd a thunk it? Cardboard!!!! I'll be more appreciative of all the boxes I get!
Wow! I just thought, I've a cache in my attic, saved for moving, or other uses. I may be a millionaire! Where do I cash in?
Bill
7:53 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Curbside pick up is illegal. Only companies contracted by the towns can pick up curbside.
who'd have thought
4:41 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
it wasn't in a dumpster...it was in the stores loading docks!! Get the facts straight.
Bob
7:55 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
You could easily make a living off of this if you went to every house on bottles/cans and cardboard nights collect all of it and go to a recycle center for a cash in .... This article is only going to inspire people to do this now $$$
Bob
7:57 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
@Bill ..... Is it really? I thought curb was fair game until collection day
jp1
8:05 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I have never seen so many dumb comments on one short story before,
dave dovermann
12:09 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
jp1 "Ditto".
Paul Ragas
12:39 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
+1
anthony j. popola
4:43 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
you are right about that my friend...never seen so many condescending a**holes on one site...good for a laugh though...
john doe
8:05 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
there have been articls in the record about towns losing money because of people taking recycling from the curbside. it is illegal to take but rarely enforced. Towns are paid for what the collect from recycling. the better materials are seperated the more they are worth. recently i actually saw a paramus cop stop and issue a summose to someone taking a oven that my neighbor had put out for pick up.
jacobsdad
8:17 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I'd call it being entrepreneurial. Being arrested for stealing cardboard is ridiculous. There are certainly other crimes worthy of being arrested for. And if your giving a summons for taking someone else's trash(oven), then business must be slow.
Theodore
7:25 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
They stole something that did have value... how is it different then if they stole items in the store??
Bill
8:41 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I believe that even search warrants are required by law enforcement to obtain and go through garbage at the curb. My understanding has always been that unauthorized garbage pick-up is illegal and considered the property of the occupant of the premises until it picked up by town contractors. Most property owners do not object when someone asks if they can have the appliances placed at the curb, especially since the towns do charge for this type of garbage. Additionally, if the homeowner places a "free" sign on certain items, then it is not illegal to pick up.
n
6:09 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Search warrants are not needed to go through the garbage since it is considered abandoned property, but the government(Somerset County), makes money from the collections and ordinances have been written to fine people who take recycling. It's not fair and I have no problem with anyone other than the county taking my recycling, as long as they don't make a mess.
n
6:15 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Doesn't it bother anyone that you paid taxes on what was in the packages that is in the recycling, then demanding the money from recycled packaging. It's like being taxed twice.
Theodore
7:27 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
n - this is not garbage. It was packaged cardboard that was prepared to be picked up and recycled. It isn't like wal-mart put the cardboard on the curb for the trash company to pick up.
n
8:23 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
@Theodore, If you were paying attention, I was replying to Bill's comment and not about bulk packaging that Walmart does. Re-read and you'll know what I was commenting about.
Ron Lottermann
9:45 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Just to clarify a few points. Most municipalities have an ordinance that states the recyclables become property of the town once they are placed at the curb. Taking recycling off the curb is illegal. There is a value to it so it is theft.
The police in NJ are required to have a search warrant to go through your garbage. Other municipal officials such as your Recycling Coordinator, Sanitation or Property Maintenance Inspectors do NOT require a search warrant. That was a US Supreme Court decision from the 1980s.
In regards to the person who asked why you don't get paid for putting your recycling out to the curb, you do! The revenue the town generates is put back in the town budget to help offset the amount of taxes they need to generate for their budget. When the thieves take the recycling from the curb, they are stealing from the residents... literally!
Stealing is stealing. Would it make a difference if they were stealing shampoo instead of cardboard? Legally, no! It is theft of property.
Thirty Four
10:42 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Stealing $100,000 worth of properties is a minor crime? Each time, the theives would fetch about hundreds of dollars. Doing it often enough, it would get to that amount. According to your logic, if you steal a camera on display from a store, probably worth hundreds, that is a minor crime. You keep doing that hundreds of times, also still minor and people should just mind thier own bunisess?
Anyway, this type of crimes is not something new. A Bellivile man was arrested before:
http://livingston.patch.com/articles/5-things-police-recycling-theft-attempt-northfield-car-crash
Darlene
11:18 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
"So what are you in for?" "I stabbed a guy and stole his car. You?" "I took some empty boxes"
RdgwdGRock
11:27 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
ha-ha, good one
john doe
11:39 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Ms. concealed,
I believe we took the prosecuter who was going after corrupt politictions and made him govener of the state. things have calmed down since.
which politicians are corrupt. what where is the evidence, what crimes have they committed if you have evidence come foward with it to the local prosecuter but don't just lay out a blanket statement that no one is going after them.
This is a story about theft on a large scale not a kid taking a candy bar not corruption why does politics need to be brought into it?
Michelle
12:05 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
A lot of comments regarding curbside pickup but as I see it this was at a WalMart which is private property so that's where I think the issue is. WalMart doesn't' drop their trash "curbside" it's on their property. You cannot dump your trash in their dumpster and you cannot take what is rightfully theirs..
who'd have thought
4:46 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Michelle - Finally somone who understands that it was not at the curb but in their loading docks which is private property.
Nose Wayne
12:26 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Goes to show you how desperate things have gotten today. Stealing recycle !!! What's next ?
Darlene
12:31 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Maybe yard sale bandits swiping old Tupperware and ugly lamps ;-)
barry white
11:01 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
your mother in the boxes
JenniferB
12:44 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Where I work, we pile cardboard into a trailer and get paid for it. There are companies that will also buy back pallets and I've known people to steal those from the back of buildings as well. We have to keep our goods that we'll use for a future outbound freight in the warehouse safe from thieves.
These people know they are in the wrong or else they'd ask for it.
Bob
1:06 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
At the end of the day at least these "criminals" are recycling and helping the environment
J.D. Luke
2:33 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
So were the stores. They had not put out the cardboard to be burned, they were selling it to a recycling center.
Nose Wayne
4:23 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Darlene, Had that happen at a garage sale. Can't make this stuff up !!
Hank
5:13 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
This is not just some cardboard loose in the back dock.
This is baled cardboard that requires a baling machine.
In order to pick up the bales, the flatbed truck must bring with it a forklift truck.
It could be chained to the back of the flatbed like a Home Depot truck.
Or a roll off tow truck had to bring one along.
Then the bales have to be chained or strapped to the trailer.
All this right in front of the store's nose!
Nose Wayne
8:57 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The store should have NOSED something was going on ?
Hank
9:34 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
exactly
ed delorenzi
9:18 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I wonder if Walmart was paying the company to pick up the cardboard waste. If they were, then these guys were doing them a favor.
undercoverbrother
9:57 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
THIS IS STATEN ISLAND AND JERSEY MOB ACTIVITY,... THE COPS AND FEDS NEED TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER,.... THEIR GOING TO BE VERY SURPRISED AT WHO AND WHAT THEY PULL UP FROM THE STATEN ISLAND AND JERSEY, CESS POOL,....
cv
10:12 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@undercoverbrother No doubt this is a criminal enterprise. I agree if they dig a little deeper they will find guns, drugs , extortion and all kinds of other goodies.
barry white
11:03 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
hey undercoverbrother......im very suprised at how interested yu are do u have a life
Dave
10:12 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
So much of the morality of this country is right in the bottom of the toilet. Unbelievable! This is the second article I have read in the past hour where people are stealing from Walmart and others are applauding these crimes. What the hell kind of community do you want to live in? It's okay to steal as long as it is from a company you disapprove of? It's okay to steal if you don't think that the items should be worth much to others? Times are tough so this justifies grand larceny? What kind of families did you grow up in? Didn't anyone ever instill any honesty, decency, and respect for the property of others in you? If I don't like you is it okay for me to rip you off? It's about time some of you started thinking about what kind of world you are creating for the kids who are growing up today.
KATHY WATSON
10:38 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
It's laughable (almost) since it's cardboard, but it wouldn't be so funny if it was something like copper. A crime is a crime no matter what the item. They made a lot of money from it and went to a lot of trouble to set up their operations to do so.
Nose Wayne
11:35 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
WOW!!!!! 63 POSTS,over CARDBOARD ?
cv
10:37 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
These are not nice people and this is not their only crime . Go to silive.com under news you will see anice in depth article about these upstanding citizens.
centurion
10:47 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Look at the bright side; even the mobsters are going 'green'. Say hello to my uncle RICO.
barry white
11:07 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
does everyone realize that you are talking about CARDBOARD!!!!!!!!you and the cops and feds should be worrying about all the shootings and drugs that this places is filled with i really think everyone needs to find something to do other that comment like a bunch of 10 year old!!!!!!!! and worry about yourselves for ONCE
Ricky
8:43 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
< the cops and feds should be worrying about all the shootings and drugs> They handle all crimes whether you consider them minor or not, and thank goodness they don't listen to you by allowing others to break the law because you don't think it's that big a deal.
anthony j. popola
4:41 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
they can steal all the cardboard they want to....just don't put a Wal Mart anywhere near my town....
Ricky
8:40 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
A few days back was another example of personal revenge, a grudge against a company, this is another example of do what you want, even break the law cause I don't like them.
Bud Fox
11:39 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
goombas
anthony j. popola
8:45 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
goombas? i guess protestants don't steal cardboard...you wouldn't make that remark if they were black or hispanic...